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THE BLACK STONE AT MECCA



(Photo: the Sacred Yoni, one corner of the Ka’bah at Mecca – the part of the sacred black stone pilgrims kiss).
At Mecca the Goddess was Shaybah or Sheba, the Old Woman, worshipped as a black aniconic stone like the Godess of the Scythian Amazons. The sacred Black Stone now enshrined in the Kaaba at Mecca was her feminine symbol, marked by the sign of the yoni, and covered like the ancient Mother by a veil. No one seems to know exactly what it is supposed to represent today.

The Black Stone rests in the Haram, “Sanctuary”, cognate of “harem,” which used to mean a Temple of Women: in Babylon, a shrine of the Goddess Har, mother of harlots. Hereditary guardians of the Haram were the Koreshites, “children of Kore,” Mohammed’s own tribe. The holy office was originally held by women, before it was taken over by male priests calling themselves Beni Shayban, “Sons of the Old Woman.”

What is the black stone of Mecca? Here’s the answer from The Edge:
The Black Stone – the Omphalos of the Goddess
Bob Trubshaw

Long-suffering readers of Mercian Mysteries will know of my obsession with ‘omphali’ – the sacred centres which each civilisation seems to create or adopt. Many of these involve stones – the Lia F il (Stone of Destiny) at Tara or the various ‘king stones’ (such as Kingston upon Thames) where medieval English kings were crowned. Our monarchs still sit on, or at least above, the Stone of Scone for their coronation. But some of these sacred stones have special interest – they are (or are said to be) black. Such Black Stones also tend to have the legend that they have fallen from the stars. Clearly, meteorites the size of these large boulders would explode into tiny fragments on impact, and also leave a substantial crater. The literal truth is not important; rather the symbolism of such stones being a link between this world and the heavens is an integral aspect of the Cosmic Axis which is invoked by all sacred centres.

Perhaps the best-known Black Stone, and now by far the most revered, is the Ka’bah at Mecca. Ka’bah means ‘cube’ and this describes the shape of the black stone structure on a marble base which stands in the centre court of the Great Mosque, Masjidul Haram, at the centre of Mecca. It stands about 50 feet high by about 35 feet wide. Set into the eastern corner is the sacred stone, covered by an elaborately embroidered black drape. As any non-moslem in the temple would be slain on sight, and photography is generally prohibited, this stone is shrouded is mystery. However, Rufus Camphausen has succeeded in tracking down three accounts of the pilgrimage to Mecca, two of which do contain photographs [1-3]. What these reveal is a polished black stone of which less than two feet is visible, set in a large, solid silver mount. The whole resembles – quite deliberately, for reasons which will emerge – the vulva of the goddess. That moslems now refer to it as the Hand of Allah does not diminish the urge for all those who complete the pilgrimage to Mecca to touch or kiss this sacred object. [Smile...]

The Black Stone has long since been broken and the silver band holds together the fragments. Tradition holds that it was a meteorite and the stone was white in colour when it first landed and then blackened. The faithful attribute this change in colour to the belief that the stone absorbs the sins of the pilgrims, but it is consistent with known meteorites which are white at first but oxidise over a period of time.

‘A principal sacred object in Arabian religion was the stone. . . . Such stones were thought to be the residence of a god hence the term applied to them by Byzantine Christian writers of the fifth and sixth centuries: ‘baetyl’, from bet’el, ‘the house of god’.’ [4]

‘In north Arabian temples the image of the deity sometimes stood in the open air or could be sheltered in a qubbah, a vaulted niche. . . . Not to be confused with the qubbah is the word ka’bah, for a cube-shaped walled structure which . . . served as a shelter for the sacred stones.’ [5]

A rock inscription at Adumattu, Arabia, reads, “May Allat (Goddess) grant every wish.” Another inscription has: “Shalm-Allat (Peace of Goddess).”
Camphausen, in his article [6], reveals that the misogynic moslem religion has its origins in goddess worship. Allah is a revamped version of the ancient goddess Al’Lat, and it was her shrine which has continued – little changed – as the Ka’bah.

The known history of Mohammed reveals that he was born around 570 CE into a tribe of the Quraysh, who not only worshipped the goddess Q’re but were the sworn guardians of her shrine. By 622 Mohammed was preaching the ways of his god, Allah, and was driven out by his own tribe as a result.

The triple goddess
Pre-islamic worship of the goddess seems to be primarily associated with Al’Lat, which simply means ‘goddess’. She is a triple goddess, similar to the Greek lunar deity Kore/Demeter/Hecate. Each aspect of this trinity corresponds to a phase of the moon. In the same way Al’Lat has three names known to the initiate: Q’re, the crescent moon or the maiden; Al’Uzza, literally ‘the strong one’ who is the full moon and the mother aspect; then Al’Menat, the waning but wise goddess of fate, prophecy and divination. Islamic tradition continue to recognise these three but labels them ‘daughters of Allah’.

According to Edward Rice [7] Al’Uzza was especially worshipped at the Ka’bah where she was served by seven priestesses. Her worshippers circled the holy stone seven times – once for each of the ancient seven planets – and did so in total nudity. Near the Ka’bah is the ever-flowing well, Zamzam, which cools the throats of the countless millions of pilgrims.

In an oasis of always-flowing water, the Black Stone in its mount became an unmatched image of the goddess as giver of life. Only in the Indian continent do such physical symbols for the male and female generative powers – the lingam and yoni – continue to be worshipped with their original fervour.

It is easy to imagine that in pre-moslem times the goddess’s temple at Mecca was pre-eminent – whether to celebrate life, ask protection, pray for offspring. Legend tells how Abraham, unable to produce children by his wife Sarah, came here to make love to his slave Hagar. Later, when Hagar came back to give birth, she could find no water and Abraham created the holy well of Zamzam to save the life of his first son.

When Mohammed wanted to surplant Al’Lut with Allah, this was the one Temple he must conquer. Although Mohammed did conquer the Ka’bah, little else changed. The faithful still circle the Holy of Holies seven times (although, I hasten to add, now fully clothed). The priests of the sacred shrine are still known as Beni Shaybah or ‘Sons of the Old Woman’ – Shaybah being, of course, the famous Queen Sheeba of Solomon’s times.

Sheeba appears under the guise of Lilith in the Near East and as Hagar (‘the Egyptian’) in the Hebrew mythology of the Old Testament. So, rewriting the legend given above, Abraham begot his son, Ishmael – the ancestor of all Arab peoples – by the goddess on the Black Stone of the Ka’bah.

While we are tracing names, Q’re (or Qure), the maiden aspect of Al’Lut, seems certain to be the origin of the Greek Kore. Camphausen suggests that the holy Koran (qur’an in Arabic) is the ‘Word of Qure’. Even moslems admit that the work existed before the time of Mohammed. Legend said it was copied from a divine prototype that appeared in heaven at the beginning of time, or the Mother of the Book [8]. Al’Uzza, the mother aspect of Al’Lut, may give us the pre-dynastic Egyptian snake goddess Ua Zit [Uadjet] who develops into Isis.

Archaeo-astronomy
Returning to the geomantic significance of the Ka’bah, Professor Hawkins has argued that it is exceedingly accurately aligned on two heavenly phenomena. These are the cycles of the moon and the rising of Canopus, the brightest star after Sirius. In a thirteenth-century Arabic manuscript by Mohammed ibn Abi Bakr Al Farisi it is stated that the alignment is set up for the setting crescent moon – an ancient symbol of the virgin-goddess which still appears in the national flags of many islamic nations. In some flags – Algeria, Mauritania, Tunisia and Turkey – the crescent is accompanied by a star, perhaps representing Canopus.

LORD OF SIRIUS
The Egyptian city known as Canopus seems also have been a goddess temple, as the Greek historian Strabo (63BCE-21CE) considered the place to be notorious for wild sexual activities. Such references typically refer to temples where sacred ‘prostitution’ or ritual promiscuity were part of the worship; invariably sacred objects depicting the genitals of either god and/or goddess were venerated. Such sacred promiscuity continued to be part of the Pilgrimage to Mecca, at least for some moslems.

The Shi’ites from Persia were allowed to form temporary ‘marriages’ for the period of the pilgrimage. Any children born as a result were regarded as divine or as saints – a custom with worldwide parallels (English surnames such as Goodman, Jackson or Robinson perhaps derive from similar sacred unions with god in the form of Green Men characters such as Jack o’the Green or Robin Greenwood; I would also suggest that the original sense of ‘godparent’ and ‘godchild’ has similar origins.)

Aniconic black stone once venerated at the Temple of Aphrodite, near
Paphos, Cyprus. From photograph by Bob Trubshaw.

More Black Stones
Deities of other cultures known to have been associated with stones include Aphrodite at Paphos, Cybele at Pessinus and later Rome, Astarte at Byblos and the famous Artemis/Diana of Ephesus. The latter’s most ancient sculpture was, it is said, carved from a black meteorite.

Thoth-Crescent Symbol
The earliest form of Cybele’s name may have been Kubaba or Kumbaba which suggests Humbaba, who was the guardian of the forest in the Epic of Gilgamesh (the world’s oldest recorded myth from Assyria of c.2500BCE and, as scholars reveal more of the text, increasingly the source of most of the major mythological themes of later civilisations [9]) [10]. The origin of Kubaba may have been kube or kuba meaning (guess what) – ‘cube’. The earliest reference we have to a goddess worshipped as a cube-shaped stone is from neolithic Anatolia [11].

Alternatively, ‘Kubaba’ may mean a hollow vessel or cave – which would still be a supreme image of the goddess. The ideograms for Kubaba in the Hittite alphabet are a lozenge or cube, a double-headed axe, a dove, a vase and a door or gate – all images of the goddess in neolithic Europe.

To the Phoenicians she was Astarte; to the Phrygians, Cybele; to the Babylonians, Ishtar; to the Thracians, Bendis; to the Cretans, Rhea; to the Ephesians, Artemis; to the Canaanites, Atargatis; to the Persians, Anaitis; to the Cappadocians, Ma. But though her names differ, her attributes are the same – she is always the mother who succours and helps, and who bestows fertility.


Cybele’s Stone?

stone associated with Cybele’s worship was, originally, probably at Pessinus but perhaps at Pergamum or on Mount Ida. What is certain is that in 204 BCE it was taken to Rome, where Cybele became ‘Mother’ to the Romans. The ecstatic rites of her worship were alien to the Roman temperament, but nevertheless animated the streets of their city during the annual procession of the goddess’s statue. Alongside Isis, Cybele retained prominence in the heart of the Empire until the fifth century CE; the stone was then lost. Her cult prospered throughout the Empire and it is said that every town or village remained true to the worship of Cybele [12].

Vatican City built over the TEMPLE of CYBELE in Rome!
The home of Aphrodite was at Paphos on Cyprus. Various Classical writers describe the rituals which went on her in her honour – these seem to include the practice which is now known by the disdainful term of ‘sacred prostitution’. In any event, the tapering black stone which was the object of verneration at this Temple still survives, even if it now placed inside the site musuem [13].

The tower on Cybele’s head is a reminder of the Tower of Babel—the scene of the first great apostasy after the great Flood of Noah.

Also on Cyprus is another highly venerated islamic site – the third most important after Mecca and Medina – the Hala Sultan Tekke. This, too, has a black rock, said to have fallen as a meteorite as part of the tritholon over the shrine. The shrine is to a woman – the aunt and foster mother of Prophet Mohammed [14]. Could this, like Mecca, have been originally a goddess shrine? Unfortunately no other clues are forthcoming.

“Varro states that the goddess was brought from a shrine called the Megalesion in the city of Pergamon while Ovid located the Mother’s home on Mount Ida near the ancient city of Troy, which was under Pergamene control at that time. Livy seems to combine the two traditions in reporting that the Romans sought the help of the Pergamene king Attalos I in obtaining the goddess from Pessinous. Precisely what the Romans obtained is described in several sources: it was a small dark sacred stone not formed into any iconographic image, that had fallen to the shrine of Pessinous from the sky.“(Roller, In Search of God the Mother, p. 265).


Another site stated to have a Black Stone was at Petra, but I have been unable to discover where this was or who was worshipped there – could any readers who know please write in!

To add a little local flavour, numerous standing stones in the British Isles are reputed to have fallen from the stars. The now-lost Star Stone marked the meeting of Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire; an also-vanished stone at Grimston, Leicestershire, was also said to have such an origin. However, whether or not such stones were ever associated with goddess worship we will never know.

It would take far too long to discuss to what extent the cult of the goddess’s Black Stone may have been perpetrated as Solomon’s bride in the Song of Songs, who is ‘black but beautiful’ or to come to terms with the black images of Demeter, Artemis and Isis who have their direct continuation in the Black Virgins of Europe – patrons of the troubadours, the gnostics and the alchemists, as well as the present Pope. Those who wish to follow such ideas would do well to read The myth of the goddess [15] which, in a sober but inspirational manner, re-evaluates how the feminine deity has remained with us throughout history.

Further information on these topics appears in a follow-up article by Alby Stone Goddess of the Black Stone.

References
[1] Richard Burton, A personal narrative of a pilgrimage to Al-Medinah and Meccah, London 1856.
[2] Hussein Yoshio Hirashima, The road to holy Mecca, Kodansha (Japan), 1972.
[3] Anon., Pilgrimage to Mecca, Sud-Editions (Tunis) 1978 and East-West Publications (London) 1980.
[4] Encyclopedia Brittanica.
[5] ibid.
[6] Rufus C. Camphausen, ‘The Ka’bah at Mecca’, Bres (Holland) No.139, 1989. My thanks to Rufus for bringing this article to my attention; this article of mine is in large part a synopsis of his longer work. See also ‘From behind a veil’, Flora Green, in The cauldron No.61 (reprinted from The Merrymount messenger Winter 1991).
[7] E. Rice, Easter definitions, Doubleday, 1978 (cited in Camphausen).
[8] Barbara G. Walker, The crone, Harper & Row, 1985 (cited in Camphausen).
[9] See Robert Temple’s recent translation He who saw everything, Rider, 1991.
[10] Anne Baring and Jules Cashford, The myth of the goddess, Penguin, 1991.
[11] Maarten J. Vermaseren, Cybele and Attis, trans. A.M.H. Lemmers, Thames and Hudson, 1977 (cited in Baring and Cashford, op. cit.).
[12] ibid.
[13] ‘Aphrodite’s island’, Penny Drayton, Wood & water, Vol.2, No.41, Jan 1993.
[14] ibid.
[15] Baring and Cashford, op. cit.

Originally published in Mercian Mysteries No.14 February 1993.

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96 responses

  1. Val

    Very interesting, I have just found this sight and have whiled away a very pleasant SUNday morning reading many of the posts. I’m really impressed by the balanced tone, because normally I can’t get past the pulpit thumping attitude of some websites nor the overly fantastical ideas of new agers either. Personally, I think there’s some truth to both ends of the spectrum but as mere humans we understand so little, we know not how little we know. I really appreciate the effort made here to present evidence and maintain levelheadedness, and encourage you to keep it up. I’ll be following along regularly now.

    But I’d like to point out some possibly incorrect assumptions regarding Shayba and Sheba. Shayba does mean old lady in Arabic but ibn Shayban means the sons of the old MAN. The ‘an’ is a grammatical ending in arabic, if the same ending were used for a feminine word such as ‘shayba’ it would then read ‘shaybatan’ because the letter we represent as “a” is in arabic actually called a ‘tied T” and is pronounced that way when something is added after it.

    Sheyba is also not the same as Sheba. The name of Sheba in Arabic is saba’ with an S not a SH. The confusion arises from the fact that we know of Sheba via Hebrew, which typically uses a ‘sh’ whereas it’s most closely related sister language Arabic uses an ‘s’. For example the jewish holiday or ‘rash ash-shannah’ is in arabic ‘ ras as-sannah’, both literally mean ‘head of the year’. This tendency can still be found in the speech of Tunisian and Yemeni jews, as I personally discovered in both countries, who speak their local Arabic dialects making the s into a sh sound.

    Moreover, the root of Sheyba or Sheyb is sh-a(ay)-b, while the root letters of Sheba (Saba) are s(sh)-b-‘. The ‘ is a glottal stop letter, something like what happens to the ‘t’ when some north americans pronounce mountain as “mou ‘ in”. I Hebrew and Ge’ez the roots are sh-v-a and s-b-a. Again the last letter being an “a” (the glottal stop of arabic is written as an “a” with a little marker on top”, while the last letter of sheyb is a “b”. Clearly different spelling, we just assume things because we are not always familiar with the languages of their origin.

    The actual name of the Queen of Sheba was Bilqis. Sheba, or more closely Saba, was the name of the Kingdom and located in the central Yemen highlands reaching down to the desert town of Marib, it’s capital, and location of the famed Marib dam, the largest in antiquity(which burst and led to great flood stories, btw). THe kingdom existed at various times along with other kingdoms in south Arabia. In the Bible Isaiah 60:6; And they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring forth gold and incense; and they shall show forth the praises of the Lord. THis makes absolute sense when one knows that Frankincense and Myrrh comes mainly from Yemen (parts of Oman and East Africa too, but in lesser quality and quantity) and that southern Arabia was called Arabia Felix by the Romans, or Happy Arabia, because it was a land rich on the incense trade. (The same incense from resin is still used today in catholic and orthodox ceremonies-quite funny when you get to the deep cultural heart of the Arabs in a very Islamic Yemen and the very smell of the place reminds you of church!)

    Western scholars originally made the mistake of thinking all Arabians worshiped the Moon. When in fact there is much archeological and literary evidence that the sun god was also worshiped, and in some areas paramount. Frankly this makes more sense. If one is worshiping celestial entities the sun is clearly the largest most influential object in the sky. In fact, there is Quranic, Jewish, and ancient Ethiopian Evidence(the Kingdom of Sheba at times included parts of east africa and to this day there are deep ties, at one time a Christian Ethiopian king ruled from Yemen in a different Kingdom and era) that the sun god was the main god, BUT that other deities were worshiped such as the moon, a water god, a wood god etc…

    Regardless of the original truth, which is somewhere in the middle no doubt, there is clearly evident a long, long struggle between the worshipers of the Sun and the Moon, as we know in ancient Egypt, Canaan and even Babylon. So it seems reasonable to say that the same was true in south Arabia. In fact, the truth is more along the lines as stated above that the prophet Mohammed was in the sun camp and his tribe protectors of moon worship, and that sun worship already had adherents in south arabia and nearby east africa and that he was clearly influenced by this, as he was influenced by the christian arabs and jewish arabs, as people in what is now Yemen and Saudi Arabia were at the time. Although they likely wouldn’t have viewed themselves this way. As neither do modern day christians and muslims like to acknowledge the pagan symbolism and practices evident in their own faiths today.

    PS: There is of course a large dispute over the location of the Kingdom of Sheba: Ethiopia or Yemen, and strong evidence exists for both. But there are in fact so many overlapping details, such as a Queen Arwe in Ethiopia, and a Queen Arwa in Yemen ( still a very popular name) that I think the best bet is that these kingdoms were often one in the same or ruled sometimes from one side of the sea and other times from the other and that these ancient queens and kings were likely related and intermarried, much as we see with European royalty.

    April 10, 2011 at 1:14 PM

  2. RUPESH

    PLEASE LEAVE ME A MESSAGE ABOUT BLACK STONE OF KAABA.

    July 4, 2011 at 3:28 AM

    • The Black Stone of Kaaba is a piece of rock which is said to come from space. Take notice that even the rituals of the Catholic Church resembles the practices of this false religion. Why? Because they are both false religions. We are not meant to use religion as a crutch. GOD is our crutch which we need to do anything! The only thing we are to NEED…..is GOD….especially not rituals. Talk to GOD and keep GOD close to your heart and your will need no other materialistic or ritualistic regime.

      July 4, 2011 at 10:23 AM

    • Luciano Honesto

      The Black Stone is not an idol or a sacred object. It is the symbol of unity when Muhammad gathered the warrying clans around a blanket where he suggested to carry the Stone on it, then transport it inside the Kaabah. After that Muhammad gained the reputation of wisdom. That’s it.
      The reason why the Clans of Meccah considered it sacred is unknown. It comes from the deep past. Perhaps it is the stone of Jacob who tells a story about sleeping on a stone from heavens and dreaming of angels coming down on a ladder from the sky…
      The relationship between Jacob and Mecca (Makkah) is plausible since it is the country of Abraham who built the House of God, Bethel, the Kaabah, used by Makkah (deformed to Micah by the Modern Hebrew) the Idol Maker Israelite priest, hence the name of Makkah.

      November 25, 2012 at 10:39 AM

      • The correlations between all the religions set up by the ‘sky gods’ have these same symbols, hence a false religion. Sent by Satan for worshiping him and the angels, which GOD tells us specifically not to do.
        The books about the crazed fits of Muhammad, which even the people surrounding him questioned as ‘possessed’ should be the very detail needed to realize that this ‘angel’ was not a good one.

        November 25, 2012 at 11:12 AM

      • Luciano Honesto

        Virginia: I did not think I would go there in my comments, this article was not initially a religious discussion, but trust me I am a linguist and speak five languages with analytical recorded arguments about ancient Middle East. I suggest you put aside your convictions about Satan and the sour mythology woven around it, if it had ever existed. Religion never drove me to attack or dismiss the human spritual patrimony and believe me I can drive anyone’s faith to doubt and dismissal. Politics is a very complicated matter, I mean extremely complicated, so why bother dismissing anyone else’s religion? We are all ignorant or at least on the way of exploring. In the end I have a conclusion about the old scriptures and their understanding: the English tongue will never be capable of pennetrating the other nations’ mind and therefore, understanding them. You are included in this category because I am French and know better than you about the mysteries of the Middle East. In France you are more likely to find answers than in the USA where knowledge is driven by colonial invasion and relative arrogant judgment.
        And about Aliens: they may exist but it is not advisable to jump to conclusions, it is too early.

        November 25, 2012 at 12:06 PM

      • Not once in my response did the word ‘I’ come up. This is not about me. You can pump yourself up all you want/like but the fact that you know/speak several languages means nothing if you don’t ‘know’ the Truth of GOD.

        The Truth comes in all languages but you must know it to speak it. Truth with a capital ‘T’ is about GOD….only GOD. So, debating one’s theories can take a lifetime but why waste a lifetime on theory when the FACT is that GOD wants a personal relationship with you. So setting religion aside….this is the point of my articles.

        Mythology comes from legends woven in tales sprinkled with truth, and the elitist POV is to tickle the doubt in the mind of a believer…but that will never happen here. There is NO doubt of Satan….oh wait….if you doubt Satan and demons…then I suggest you go play with toys…specifically a Ouija Board. But beware for you will find things you never imagined becoming your reality.

        And beg your pardon sir, but you will never drive my faith to be doubted or dismissed no matter what language you speak. So if you continue to take your “I”s down the road of self-worship…you will remain alone for it has no place with GOD.

        November 25, 2012 at 12:39 PM

  3. Feyal Adiva

    Well, I will be able to view and touch the black stone but You will NEVER . Since only MUSLIMS can touch it you will always envy that chance to touch an heavenly object on this earth. It is a solid stone that stands against all the false idols as a miracle.

    September 16, 2011 at 4:04 AM

  4. My fascination with the balck stone is purely scientific. There could be a zillion more black stones circling our planet as we speak now.

    The Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) said once that if it had not been a tradition symbol, he would have removed the black stone from Al Kaba (but he did not for respect of the tradition of the Pilgrims).

    So, there is nothing no graet significance to the black stone. Indeed the Prophet removed around 360 idols from Al Haram when he enterd Mecca as conqueror.

    November 13, 2011 at 12:40 AM

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  6. Darleen

    I have a seeking spirit as do quite obviously a lot of people. I wasn’t church raised, but I God has given me a heart of compassion on a lot of people who have a seeking spirit too. What I think is going on is a lot of people walking around ‘wondering’ what is really going on and not a real clear picture of who or what to pray to or pray for and this is called ‘HARAM’ and I hope as to not offend anyone in their belief or what they choose to believe. I am called to love ‘ALL’ people and that is what ‘God’ has called me to do, but to tell you the ‘TRUTH’ God or the God the I know who constantly cares for and loves me loves everyone would not have a lot of time to waste on this one ‘CULTURE’ or ‘Religious Belief’ to be angry or hate another one for what they believe in, this is true for a ‘multitude’ of people and people have to use their own minds and think for themselves apart from so many different doctrines, traditions, values, beliefs and manners and finally come to the conclusion that it is a waste of time to try to figure everything out and just drop all that out of their heads and go about doing right anyway……..which is what I believe Mother Teresa had hanging up in her room in Calcutta.

    May 23, 2012 at 10:12 AM

    • Krishna Bk

      You are absolutely correct.One part of the world says that they are the most free people in the world, where as the other part say they don’t have freedom. But the real thing is none of us enjoy any freedom in this world. People are being intimidated,and controlled by religion.

      July 6, 2012 at 1:08 PM

      • False religions are plenty. I am not religious, I am a Believer. I don’t attend church for 99% are guided by the Illuminati, and they do control them while being in the shadows as they do with all the world governments. It’s a shame people feel the need to be in a church to feel a connection to GOD. This is not what GOD wants.
        My work here is not to curse or demean anyone. I point out what the Holy Spirit leads me to, and I make it known via my articles. If you feel your in a false religion, GET OUT. Make your relationship with GOD the foremost importance.
        This is my aim here. To seek the truths. To awaken people to them. Peace & Blessings-V

        July 6, 2012 at 9:51 PM

  7. very interesting article….thnx

    July 8, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    • sarah

      Ibn `Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) also narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “When the Black Stone came down from Paradise, it was whiter than milk, but the sins of the sons of Adam made it black.”
      (At-Tirmidhi, Sunan)

      Dear brother in Islam, we would like to thank you for your interest in learning the teachings of Islam, and we appreciate the great confidence you have in us. We hope our efforts meet your expectations.
      As for the Black Stone, we touch or kiss it in order to honor us with association with the great Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). We don’t exaggerate in our love for it. We do kiss it because our Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) did so.
      In Islam, we should not base our belief on sources which we cannot verify one hundred percent. The only fact that we can certainly establish is that it was put there by Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) and Isma’eel (Ishmael) (peace be upon them both) by the order of Almighty Allah, and the purpose of it was to indicate the beginning of tawaf (Circumambulation of the Ka`bah).
      .
      Tradition goes that the Kaaba was ordained by Allah to be built in the shape of the House in Heaven called Baitul Ma’amoor. Allah in his infinite Mercy ordained a similar place on earth and Prophet Adam was the first to build this place. The Bible, in the Chapter of Genesis describes its building when God ordained Abraham to erect a Shrine for worship when Abraham was ordered to go to the Southern desert with his wife Hagera and infant son Ismael. The Old Testament describes this building as the Shrine of God at several places, but the one built at Ma’amoor is very much similar to the one at Makka. There is no doubt that it was referring to the stone built house at Makka.
      Qora’an brought this story into the full light of history. In Sura 3 Verse 90 Qora’an says “Allah has spoken the Truth, therefore follow the creed of Ibrahim, a man of pure faith and no idolater”. The first house established for the people was at Makka, a Holy place and a guidance to all beings. Qora’an firmly establishes the fact that Ibrahim was the real founder of the Holy Shrine
      Prophet Ibrahim built this House for devout worship to one God. But within his lifetime people disobeyed his orders and began to put idols inside the Kaaba. Ibrahim had to clean the House of these idols and of Idle worshippers. He told the people that this was a symbolic house of God. God does not live there for He is everywhere. People did not understand this logic and no sooner had Ibrahim died the people, out of reverence, filled the place with idols again. They thronged to this place annually and worshipped their personal gods, It was over Four Thousand years later that the last of the line of prophet (SA), Muhammad Ibne Abdullah entered Makka triumphantly, went inside the Ka’aba and, with the help of his cousin and son in law Ali Ibne Abi Talib, (AS) destroyed all the idols of Ka’aba with their own hands. At one stage of this destruction of idols, the tallest of the idol Hubbol was brought down after Ali had to stand on the shoulders of the Prophet to carry out God’s orders. The Prophet of Islam was reciting the Verse from the Qur’an
      “Truth hath come and falsehood hath vanished.”
      historically when Ibrahim was ordered by Allah to build the Shrine for worship over a small he uncovered the original foundations of the Kaaba built by Adam. Ibrahim with the help of his son Ismael erected the new shrine on the same foundations

      lastly I would like to suggest you look at a satellite view of the moon. Why is there a split in the moon? Why does the two oceans atlantic and Indian not mix? What scientific research have you found explaining this occurrence. Only the quraan has references to it from over 610AD. Please research the true Islam thoroughly and not what you may hear from others. It is an amazing religion. It is a way of life not just a belief

      July 11, 2012 at 5:59 AM

      • Sarah,
        You and I differ much in that I am NOT a believer of allah. This story represents that fact that this ‘cube’ is nothing but an idol with which people can worship. It represents Satan in its prime source…evil, sin.
        I do not condemn you, but the false religion, the idol with this religion.
        Peace & Blessings, V

        July 11, 2012 at 9:41 AM

      • B-Rad

        Then please stop killing in the name of Allah (God). If you want the world to perceive your religion as being based on goodness with the will of nurturing the kindness and generosity of mankind, then please quell the radical factions that attack and kill the innocent.

        September 19, 2012 at 3:28 AM

      • Sayed Noormohamed

        Salam Waleykum,
        Sister u have done a great job i thank you for leting know all about our history of islam . i was born and bought up in such place where i did not get all this knowledge… my email id is… sayednoormohamed@gmail.com.. plz let me know possible things which realtes to islam. thank you may Allah Give you All the Hapiness in the wortld ..
        Salam Waley kum …

        October 31, 2012 at 5:50 AM

      • I am glad to hear you have been enlightened by the TRUTH of GOD and HIS Precious WORD! The false religions on the earth were brought forth to confuse the masses. It certainly has accomplished just that. When you see the connections of the Roman Catholic Church to Islam, you begin to get a picture of the depth of it all.
        Keep reading. Learn all you can so that your foundation of Truth in GOD cannot be wavered. This is the true test of it all. There are not enough hours in the day to take it all in!
        Glad to hear from you. Please continue to learn more and may GOD Bless you! Peace & Blessings-V

        October 31, 2012 at 9:37 AM

  8. mike suleiman

    truly one day before ALLAH you will come to regret this false information that you are trying to plot.ALLAH is not an idle but the creater of the world.you know the truth i know it but you just want to make islam a false.my friend study islam and then thing whether you love the earth more than its creater.

    July 21, 2012 at 8:34 AM

    • Research has placed this information at hand into this blog.

      July 21, 2012 at 11:09 AM

  9. shashi

    every word every aspect of islam has a meaning and that meaning is clearly explained by sanskrit,even meaning of mohammed,adam,ramadan,zam zam,every thing has its meaning in sanskrit language.and the actual meaning of ibrahim.about prophet’s tribe and how prophet was dedicated to whom and also “THE BLACK STONE”. if u can please collect that info or research about it.

    September 7, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    • I collected an abundant amount of info, then brought it together. But, I will not ‘enlighten’ or bring into ‘light’ the darkness for people to think it’s a good thing. The Black Stone has a lot of darkness about it. The Zam Zam is yet again another form of ‘miracles’ given by the fallen angels for people to believe it is from GOD. But, it is not.

      September 7, 2012 at 3:19 PM

      • OTTO

        When Muslims kiss the black stone they kiss the vulva of the Goddess is this not Divine?

        September 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM

      • This ‘rock’ from space…is not divine…ONLY the TRUE GOD is divine. There are no goddesses, nor other false gods which compare.

        September 8, 2012 at 12:13 AM

      • OTTO

        Darling the True God is both God and Godess

        September 8, 2012 at 7:15 AM

      • James

        James
        A stone cannot feel,cannot love, and be it from here or outer space, it most assuredly cannot remove our sins. That requires a sacrifice. Abraham knew it. I’m sure it wasn’t easy for him to abandon Ishmael and Hagar in the desert, yet it’s a sacrifice he made out of Love for his wife Sarah. And out of love for God he was willing to sacrifice Isaac, but God,in all his compassion stopped him then God (out of love) Sacrificed his only begotten Son for us all. And his son volunteered. Hey stone cannot do these things we cannot feel love

        September 10, 2012 at 11:25 PM

      • James

        Is it just me or does the Vaticans Design seem to resemble some of the shapes I’ve seen on here?

        September 13, 2012 at 2:01 AM

  10. akbar basha

    the prophet was kiss black stone or not if yes have any benefit from that

    September 16, 2012 at 3:42 AM

    • The Vatican works together with the Jesuit Priests who worship this New Age FALSE doctrine. Yes, there are articles here which show images sustaining these facts. The info presented is true. I don’t want to beat peoples brows just for the pleasure of it. I want people to wake up to the ONE, the Only True GOD! Peace & Blessings-V

      September 16, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    • OTTO

      Islam is a cult of Hate and Violence. May %^&* be on mohamrd, he was a charlatan and child molester

      September 16, 2012 at 11:36 AM

      • brownie

        Otto does your religion teach u to hate people of other religions? Arnt we all Gods creations??? Who u pray for I will respect and others expect the same to. Don’t be deceived open your heart Otto you maybe feeding the demon with all the hatred you have in you, remember the moment we feed hatred you on the devils side and when you have love you on Gods side.

        September 20, 2012 at 5:43 AM

      • True, hate is not of GOD. Even passion filled dislike! It’s all the same. You tell the truth without inflation and be done with it. Debating a wall only ends with frustration. Both people feel they are correct, and issuing out these feelings gets you no where.
        I do not debate. I feel there are SO MANY other important issues to be handled.So, remember ONLY GOD knows your heart. So, be productive. GO SERVE YOUR KING!
        Peace & Blessings-V

        September 20, 2012 at 10:12 AM

      • brownie

        People should open their eyes and realise that the devil had divided us for a very long time, we played right into his hand to separate and divide to cause chaos so he can rule and is still doing so, that’s why we hate each other. We are light beings, everything is made up of energy. I would like to share with you a story about a man who passed on, he never stole, lied, hated no matter what was done to him he still felt love for all and the day his soul left his body the room just lit up so bright and beautiful and he looked in peace with God and himself, he wasn’t a very religious man but he believed in God loved all Gods creations and the time he was being buried he was light as paper. He died a poor man, all his wealth he gave to the poor, always so helpfull, he was my DaD and my inspiration to see good in everybody.

        September 20, 2012 at 5:58 AM

      • What an inspiring story. I pretty much just replied the same answer about love, and I read this. Great story. Great man. Feel blessed that you had him in your life. Sometimes we are given certain people in our lives for lessons learned. Sounds like he may have taught some very important lessons. Peace & Blessings-V

        September 20, 2012 at 10:15 AM

      • Diego

        Hi Otto

        I must let you know that I’m an incredibly peaceful person. A 30year old muslim male with an exceptional tolerance for others.

        In fact, I even am lucky enough to have many sincere Christian and Hindu relatives and friends.

        That said, I admit that I saw blood the moment you insulted my Holy Propher Muhammed PBUH and I do secretly wish I heard you say that personally.

        Otto’s childish insults aside, I wish all who read this peace and contentment of the heart. It’s obvious GOD expects us to drop our arrogance and just get along ! I’m a proud Muslim but DON’T have all the answers – behave arrogantly, with that “Only my way is right” attitude and you WILL fall.

        Revise the story about the Prostitute who gave the dog water with her shoe. That should sum it up nicely…

        January 31, 2013 at 5:45 PM

  11. brownie

    I agree with what u say V, when my husband and I have a disagreement I always tell him to take a step back and listen, we all feel we are right but everybody is entitled to there opinion, you listen to what I have to say its how I see it, u don’t have to agree with me I’m only asking you to listen and I will listen to your version, I’m not saying I’m right neither am I saying its wrong, we each have a different belief, no 2 things are the same. I think this world would be a better if we take the time to listen now and then, love leads the way Lots of love to all.

    September 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM

  12. brownie

    Reading the author of this site version of The Black Stone at mecca, I said its a possibility but then reading Sarahs version made more sense, like an opener to how we can be deceived

    September 20, 2012 at 3:21 PM

  13. rinku

    Please write this post in Hindi language

    October 12, 2012 at 2:04 AM

  14. hani yousef

    The fact that the muslims don’t allow making scientific tests of their “black stone” shows that they are really afraid of the outcome , it would be the end of islam .

    October 27, 2012 at 6:56 AM

    • brownie

      Science is what corupted this beautiful earth of our, imagine this world in its original state how healthy we humans will be and everything else that god created. Some people are so lost, wish everybody had wisdom. Learn your true history instead of getting information from some garbage textbooks that disinforms you. Wish I could share with you the truth but alas sharing with people information doesn’t make them any wiser, they have to search their hearts to find the truth. I’m from Africa a beautiful humble group of people but unfortunately we are made to look like uncivilized barbarians which is not true. Outsiders got their sticky fingers in everything that’s depriveing our nations, they are causing mayhem so they can have control, its pure greed on they side. So watch who you blame or how you see others, life is to precious, let God be the judge not ourselves. Aint a pretty picture when you on the other side of the fence. Stand up for yourselves and for your children and grandchildren to come, this been going on for to long. Science had and still have a way to manipulate, get wise!

      November 5, 2012 at 3:39 AM

      • kolapo ; Lagos Nigeria

        Fron the historical facts presented and available, the pagans used to worship stones and other images. If you ask yourself, why would God associate with such idols again if He had told the Israelites not to even marry nor associate the Amorites,the Jebusites, the canaanite etc becouse of their idol worshiping in
        Exodus 43 verse 11 – 16.
        My God is not a God of confusion neither can He be caged in a house made by those He himself created.
        One star is bigger than this earth and we have uncountable number of them in the space created by God.
        How precious could such stone be or the house that God would want you to go round it number of times and kiss it?This is pure idol worshiping.God is a spirit and He is everywhere and those that worship Him must do so in spirit and truth.
        When God called Moses He gave him a sign to make people believe that God called him. Like the Red sea mirracle.When God called Jesus Christ He gave signs and wonder with spiritual power for healing and mirracle for people to believe.
        The fact is that we are not as wise as Satan whose ourpose is to deceive people in order to take them to hell.
        God that created us does not want us to perish so you must secretely as God in prayer to show which is the the way becos this world is a journey.It is a great disaster indeed
        in you end up being decieved .It is God that knows everything so we must ask him and He will never mislead you in Jesus name.

        November 23, 2012 at 2:57 AM

  15. Luciano Honesto

    Regarding the fact of the Crescent and Star symbol is not islamic born with the Prophet, I invite you to share the Smithsonian magazine site at http://www.smithsonianmag.com/multimedia/photos/?c=y&articleID=26869094&page=17 which shows a Gilded silver ceremonial plaque depicting Cybele (Ai Khanum, Temple with niches), beginning of the 3rd century BC.
    This plaque is about 7 inches in diameter and it was found in Afghanistan by a team of American Achaeologists. This is a proof that the Crescent and Venus were an astronomical sacred symbol related to the Sakinah phenomenon centuries before Islam. The Sakinah happens once every 121.5 years average and counting from the building of Salomon Temple around 970 BCE. Hence the year 610 AD when Muhammad received his revelation. The Free Masons attribute a special feature to that night of Sakinah where the soul connects to the Archangel and sees unusual things of the future!!! Or is it connecting to the parallel worlds spoken of in the Kuran? No one knows or gives an explanation to interpret the Prophet’s visions. But the crescent sybol with venus is worth an investigation.

    November 24, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    • This symbol dates back farther than you realize. It is a symbolic gesture given by false doctrine. Look at Sumerian symbols….this dates back much, much further than any ‘Muslim’ faith. Please do further research on the Sumerians. And they got their doctrine from the fallen angels….those who the world call ‘aliens’.

      November 24, 2012 at 8:41 PM

      • Luciano Honesto

        Thank you Virginia: I agree with you; the symbol is much older than the 3rd century BC. I remember having found Sumerian evidence in an old study by French Archaeologists in Beirut (Institut Acheologique Francais) in 1976 but could not mention it because I do not have the right wording and reference. All I remember is the picture of a stella depicting a Sumerian king and above him the star and crescent with cuneiform text; or maybe it is a cylinder “seal”. I saw it once in another book in the Louvre. But the question is about the Greek in Afghanistan what were they doing there? Why Arabia and how did it become the symbol of their dawn prayers? Why did the Kuran mention the Sakinah 17 times? I wish I had another lifetime to go and research in Paris libraries.

        November 25, 2012 at 10:14 AM

  16. idol worship has been around for thousands of years.GOD from the first day of creation made HIMSELF known to all HE created.Satan was there in the Garden of Eden as a serpent,who first decieved the woman,who decieved the man into eating what ever came from that Tree.ADAM knew GOD ,it was GOD who gave him the choist of right and wrong,so man has to give account for his actions.let me say this,SATAN is the god of this world,there was a war in HEAVEN,Satan tried to take over,he wanted to be in charge but instead he was defeated and cast down to earth. there are THREE in HEAVEN that was from the beginning.theseTHREE are ONE the FATHER the SON and the HOLY SPIRIT.THIS is the MYSTERY of GOD. ther is no other or others,no goddess no stones no man made objects ,no mighty allah.mohammad can not be compared to JESUS CHRIST, JESUS will JUDGE mohammad in the endtimes.Mohammad was a murderer,a pediphile,a slave owner,a tool of Satan,who killed all who would not summit to islam.Mohammad was not a saint.he was one of the biggest sinners that ever lived.he could not read or write,he was a dummy and anyone who believe that GOD told him to re write the HOLY BIBLE into a book of Satanic scriptures is a fool.every WORD of THE HOLY BIBLE is from GOD ALMIGHTY there is but ONE GOD HE is JESUS CHRIST who came in the FLESH lived as a man ,raised from the dead and returned back to HEAVEN one day soon HE will return to RULE as KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS since man has failed to understand the only BOOK that gives ETERNAL LIFE man will die in his sins and Satan will be his god until man returns to the dust,but there is a way to this ETERNAL LIFE.JESUS IS THE WAY the only WAY. Confess your sins to HIM ask HIM to forgive you and follow HIS WAYS of LIFE .ROMANS 10;9 ISAIAH 9;6 JOHN I;1-14 all these other gods and goddess trash them now they can not save you.

    December 12, 2012 at 8:46 PM

  17. Luciano Honesto

    In all the above effort it does not appear where it is preferable to start responding. It looks like the whole thing is meant to attack, not call for a response. The entire statement is obviously not for discussion, it summarizes the entire Western Christian religion wording, including the attack on Muhammad that I used to hear in the remote churches.
    1- Pop Jones seems to have no enemies except Islam, with all the multitude of religions in the whole world including those who worship rats in India, Islam appears the only religion worth attacking in Pop Jones’ mind.
    2- Pop Jones seems to ignore the Old Testament and the history of idol making inside the Kaabah in the sixth century BCE. Idols and stones are of the essence of the early Israelite stories. Micah, the Idol Maker in Bethel (location of Bethel has never been found in the Holy Land) used to sell silver statues, called Teraphim (effigies), for decades, until the name of Bethel itself became Micah. Micah’s mother ‘Emlah (meaning currency) was helping him in this commerce. These idols gained value in time and became like a constant token for money, or currency. Modern historians in the University of Tel Aviv are proposing Mecca as a possible location of Bethel because of its location to the west of Judah, the city kingdom. The name of Micah itself being a corruption to the name of Meccah.
    3- The Black Stone is not the only story in the Islamic tradition, and it has never been recorded that it is about a female worship. It is the symbol of Concorde that gave Muhammad a reputation of wisdom and unification. Whatever the origin of this stone, it is for sure coming from the deep past and it was venerated for some reason. Muhammad did not give attention to its past but he already smeared it out by creating a new era of common understanding. The second step for him was the destruction of idolatry over the Kaabah, since these idols were corrupting the old tradition of the Abraham Cult with their accumulation over the Kaabah.
    4- The Jews of Meccah at that time did like this gesture towards the stone because it recalls the stone of Jacob and his Ladder. Have you ever read about this ladder?
    5- Europe today is gradually leaving the Church. Churches are getting more and more deserted. Stories of child molestation are filling the daily news and getting people like ashamed of going to church. This is because of the advance of science and uncontrolled, uncensored publishing. The education and communication with the other nations is giving way to new ideas and intellectual openness. Besides, hundreds of thousands of people are finding in Islam a plausible haven every year in Europe and America as a means for salvation. They are finding Islam more convincing as a religion. If you try to sell your statement in Europe these days, you may find yourself funny and backwardly. This is because you are clearly an American Conservative; your English tongue is a barrier between you and the other nations. It is preventing you from penetrating their mind and their history. The English language is a language for the future and for science and technology, not for analyzing the old scriptures. I am surprised how you are still so ignorant despite your American tone.
    6- In France, my country, I have never heard any instigation against Moslems in the Churches. This instigation is only in the USA and you must be one of these church goers who have never gone the extra mile to inquire. Knowledge counts, no wonder, and I do not blame you since you are oceans away from the old civilizations. That is because in Europe, science is discovering new details about the Islamic Philosophy, like the definition of Allah, which is not a name Mr. Jones; it is a common name meaning THE GOD, because in the universe there is GOD only, there is none other else. In Islam, God is the light of the universe and the creator of life and matter. No idol can replace him and no language can play mystery games with the definition of his almighty being.
    7- In Islam, attacking other religions is a horrible sin. If it were allowed, religion cannot be universal. Christianity in the Middle East does not attack Islam although Christians over there have the linguistic means to do it. As a Frenchman, I saw it by myself, the pure and beautiful Christianity calling for love and peace. Moslems over there light candles for the Virgin Mary when passing by a church.
    8- What happened to you guys? For the sake of truth try to connect with other people and put your gun down and stop pushing. Open your heart for discovery and reading, step out of your cocoon and ask questions. Stop the Christian exodus from the Holy Land and help Christians of Palestine stay; help them return. Did you know that they are calling for help and no single American Christian “For Israel” cares about them? In 1965 the population of Bethlehem was 96% Christian, today it is less than 5%. Are you happy now?
    9- About God and the definition of God, only the French people have the right to speak. This is because of the horrors seen in the last three centuries of wars and famines, and when the question of God the savior was asked at each event. Where was HE when the Jews were Holocausted in Germany? Don’t tell me it was a divine plan of HIS. Don’t tell me that the American Civil War was more horrible than the two WW in Europe. No wonder life in Paris is the peace in itself, whenever you seek a definition for peace. No wonder the French are not participating in any of the unjust wars abroad. Just wake up guys and look around you.
    10- Christianity is not like you said dear Pop Jones. Christianity is the religion of peace and understanding.

    December 16, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    • Diego

      Beautiful Sir !
      Your reply is impeccable.

      January 31, 2013 at 5:59 PM

  18. chinchin

    i think if you’re searching the truth,, you who are innocent will know it when death comes to you ^^,
    as i have researched Jesus will be back in earth,, i think it is written in the bible too, maybe that time
    you will know whats the truth ^^,

    ISLAM = PEACE

    make a research in ISLAM
    so you will be able to know
    whats the truth guys,,

    from the beginning and to the last
    part of humanity,

    February 2, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    • Backpacks stuffed with explosives meant to blowup buildings in the name of Allah does not sound like peace. Nor does any religion HELL-bent on killing people in the name of GOD. The possession of Muhammad by demons also makes me question the intent of his work.

      February 3, 2013 at 10:00 AM

      • i read a few of your replies v and youve stated that you dnt want to debate with people or bash other people’s beliefs but everytime someone mentions about islam you instantly have something negative to say about it. People use Gods name to do all sorts of evil but you cant blame any of the religions for it, can you blame all christians for the ku klux klan or for george bush’s war crimes NO ! so you cant go and do the same towards people of other faiths especially when in the heart of their teachings is peace love and the brotherhood of all men, islam means peace aquired in the heart by submiting to the will of God so does it make sense to call this beautiful religion one of war.

        March 10, 2013 at 5:56 PM

      • Research has proven that the Catholic and Islamic religions are false. I try not speak ill of a person. ONLY RELIGIONS. There is a difference. There are exceptions to the rule but I try my best to live by this rule…..

        March 10, 2013 at 7:45 PM

  19. the real history of makkha is one hindu make his temple and keep shivling but people of makkha dont allow that and close the door and the gose under the room and shivji comes and tell ok but if any hindu tough the wall then door will open .think why muslims dont open the dorr every things of muslims they show but in makkha why .take 10 muslims opion about makkha evey will give different answer. it is shiv ling 100% sure if any hindu tough the wall of kabba then door will open .

    February 21, 2013 at 4:46 AM

    • Superstitions do not make a truth. Rumors only lead to disappointment. TRUTH comes from only ONE and only ONE TRUE GOD. Our Creator and Almighty Father in heaven.

      February 21, 2013 at 11:03 AM

      • Luciano Honesto

        I think you are still talking fanatic for your own “god”, not the “God” of the universe, like in Islam. France is still the top think tank in the world and you people still have a long way to reach their intellectual level. Look: America is a futuristic state for technology and science, not good for the past and future together.

        March 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM

  20. Reblogged this on unifiedserenity and commented:
    With my last post about Islam, Muslim Allah vs. Yahovah, I thought this page would be interesting in regarding the black stone of Artemis which the Muslims kiss and touch.

    March 8, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    • Luciano Honesto

      I posted a reply here below about Allah not being a name, it is a word meaning The God (of the Universe, by definition). The black stone is nothing in Islam, only a reminder for concorde. It is coming from the deep past of Arabia, when Arabia was dominated by Israelites. No way to link Islam to paganism, and no hope to link the black stone to sex or any ancient pagan practices, unless we consider it an Israelite object. I personally believe that it is related to the Jacob’s Ladder story. It became a tradition by the israelites who venerated it because of their heritage from teir grand Patriarch Jacob/Israel.

      March 10, 2013 at 10:48 AM

      • You are welcome to your thoughts. I think the information clearly shows the pagan past of these people, and how they venerated this stone. Why do they walk around it in the hot sun day after day to get a chance to touch it and kiss it? Seems odd if it means nothing.

        March 10, 2013 at 10:55 AM

      • It is the vulva of the mother goddess they worship, the cresent is her symbol. That is also why it is framed in silver the metal of the moon goddess.

        March 10, 2013 at 12:31 PM

      • Please research the EMERALD of Lucifer. Also, the stone which fell from heaven.

        March 10, 2013 at 11:10 AM

      • you speak the truth my friend but remember some hearts are hardened and God will not change a person until they start to change themselves, even jews recognise islam as a pure monotheistic religion. omar (ra) said this stone will neither harm nor benifit me if it wasnt for the fact i saw the prophet (pbuh) kiss it i would not either.

        March 10, 2013 at 6:03 PM

  21. Amadryas

    Hi people. I can clearly see that most of you never bothered to read Sumerian mythology and realize how it was copy-pasted into Assyrian, Babylonian, Jewish, Cristian and Moslem mythologies that today pass as “religions”.This does not say I am an atheist. This simply says I am not an idiot.

    March 11, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    • You are correct in your Sumerian theology being projected into religions. But GOD saw fit to reveal HIS Truths, nonetheless! There remains Truth in the details. This consolidation was produced by the Fallen Angels. Although ‘people’ did these horrendous acts, it needs to be addressed as to the origin of this matter. The Sumerians were, I believe hybrids. Nephilim…and these bloodlines have filtered down until this very day.
      It’s the symbols which reveal the negatives and positives. Once you being to discern these, it becomes easier to recognize the who and what of it all.

      March 11, 2013 at 8:04 PM

  22. Amadryas

    Perhaps you need to know a few things about Cristianity’s “success” as well. What you today know as “Christianity” is composed of two things. As far as the myths part is concerned is entirely Sumerian (with a Jewish garment). As far as the philosophic part is concerned is entirely Greek (a copy-paste of the old Delphic Religion) ,again, given a Jewish garment.This also known as “re-branding” … A thing that often results in much more successful results than the original — specially when related with keeping everybody ignorant and stupid to serve as a mass control operation.

    March 11, 2013 at 8:11 PM

  23. yinka from nigeria

    i want to agree wit all of you that the origin of the kabah might not be scientifically available, just as the claims that the black stone is the vulva of a so called goddess is not archeologically provable. However,i want you to know that the whole exercise of the pilgrimage is to commemorate the incident in Abraham’s life including the black stone. Prophet Muhammad will do so many things to show that the religion of the former prophets remains his religion just as he accepted a fast that was established to commemorate Moses success from history telling them the MUslims have more right to Moses than anybody else. Moreso, his kissing the black stone is natural/justifiable because when you get or see what you have longed for after a long period of time(when he was chased out of mecca),you are bound to embrace it and so on. Have you asked yoursef why Muhammad was chased out mecca if he was preaching the worship of their gods?Infact, to show that he didnt attached any string to the kissing,he never instructed his companion to do as he did. They only did that out of reverence for the prophet and so do the entire muslims.Therefore, not kissing the black stone does not invalidate ones pilgrimage.You also said that one should worship God without religion,I know you are talking about Islam, but how do you know GOd exist?.i also want to ask you if you think that everything about religion should be scientifically or physically proven,then how can you prove the existence of God,angels,heaven,hell,satan,miracles etc? Also what the meaning of baptism in christianity,the last supper with the eating of ‘flesh and blood’,the cross in all churches and christian homes, etc.in summary, the black stone is not worshipped by muslims nor do they ask for anything from it as the christian do to Jesus which is the height of paganism-calling human being god!

    March 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    • GOD just is. No need to justify HIM. Existence all points to a CREATOR. Enough said.

      March 19, 2013 at 8:49 PM

  24. yinka from nigeria

    patrick…you said everything that existed has a creator and shows his existence,then how did God exist,who created Him? How do you also prove that the angels,satan,heaven,hell exist and the other things i av asked you(check my earlier post). And your so called science say the world exist because if a big bang theory. Whats your take on that? Lastly.I suppose you are ashamed to associate your self with christianity,why?

    March 20, 2013 at 5:50 AM

    • Why does the mind seem to try to find a REASON for GOD. HE just IS. HE was. HE will always BE. GOD created everything else. The GAP theory reveals the Big Bang and billions of years went by before we came into play. Science and GOD go hand in hand….it’s man who gets in between.
      I am ashamed of RELIGION and the secrets from it, not ever, never GOD.

      March 20, 2013 at 8:48 AM

      • kabir shah

        Brother
        ..you have done a great research and helped me a lot as i was also researching a lot on Balck stone and was wondering why the black stone is in kabba and I reached here on this page and i would ilke to clear a few things to you and i hope you will continue your research in islam ,first of all you are mixing pagans with Muslims ;the pagans were the people who used to believe all the things which you have mentioned above and when they embraced ISLAM as a way of life they rejected all those beliefs and the GAP theory which you are talking about is mentioned in Quran along with the explaination of big bang theory ..and all the etsablished science confirms Quran as a word of GOD..
        1.Earth is Geo spherical.
        2.Moon has its own light.
        3.why dont two different waterbodies mix.
        4.whole Mitosis Process.
        5.Solar system.
        and there ar many many more….and brother ISlam is not a religion….its just “a way” human mankind should live thier lives and ALLAH is not GOD….its just a name and arabian language uses the Name ALLAH becuase in ISLAM god “is one and there is no one like him ,he has no gender and he cant be compared with any one and he does not have any image “..thats why they use the name ALLAH cauz it has no plural form or geneder form and as a reult the name “ALLAH” can never be played with ….now coming to your Black Stone Research…whatever you have written related to black stone’s history or presence in different parts of the world is true…but the story which you are protraying AL-LAT being the god indirectly worshipped by muslims with the new name as ALLAH is totally absurd…AL-Lat was the god of pagans and all the idols inside kabba including al-lat was destroyed by Muhaamad himself…..and the black stone…as mentioned by sarah in the comments is what we believe and is what which is true…and to add on to it..the black stone was placed in the east cornerstone of kabba…and it was a tribute to Ibrahim …by Muhammad…and nothing else….and we dont worship Kabba …Muslims all over the world just use Kaaba as a Qibla..(direction)..for unity.. and now coming to the point of terrorism ;in Islam..the greatst crime after idoltary is to kill a human being….It is mentioned in quran…killing an innocent human being is like you are killing the entire humanity and if you are saving an innocent life…then it is as if you are saving the entire humanity…and so terrorism is not a monoply of islam..and the terrorists which are killing people for their personal motives in the name of islam…aldough dey call themselves muslims…but they are not muslims..or following islam as it is mentioned to follow;as i already said Islam is not a religion its just a way of life….and its the free will of human being if he or she wants to follow islam or not……..and the last Prohphet muhammad being possessed by demons..and reciting verses…Muhammad was illiterate ..and was not knowing a single word of bible or torah.and its a belief that the angel gabriel used to convey the word of god to muhammad in a cave…..so he was never possessed and brother read about him more after researching you will find that he is indeed the best human being ever who has walked on earth and brother do continue your research about islam….
        peace and blessings.

        April 15, 2013 at 6:52 PM

      • I agree there are many past events which repeat in MAJOR religious affiliations. This is by design. This is serving the purpose of confusing the masses.
        GOD is GOD. If we believe in the same GOD then so be it. Enough said.
        But, if we don’t because of all the planned confusion then we have issues. But who knows who is right or wrong. With all the lies implanted into all religions….it comes down to LOVE.
        LOVE should bring people together but instead we argue fight and fuss over who is right….so much so that it causes pain, suffering, death…and more. This is by design. satan planned this. Your religion believes in the jinn….this is who I speak of and their leader.
        So basically we have good and evil.
        I try not to use specific people but instead us the religion by example. This keeps so much confusion at bay. But, we have religion who kill others for their ‘precious’ rights. I don’t just call the Islamic religion as one of these but many, many others. Research reveals that this keeps people in control. This is wrong. Controlling is not of GOD. GOD is about love.
        Although you believe I am wrong and dearly try to change my beliefs….this won’t happen because the increase of research reveals that religion is wrong.
        This AL-LAT VS. ALLAH—you speak of reminds me of the many other names that evil takes….OSIRIS, HORUS, ISIS, ODIN, APOLLO, ASHTARA (ISHTAR), BA’AL, DAGON, ENKI, ENLIL, FREYA, FRIGG, EOS, GAIA, HATHOR, HADES, HELIOS, KRISHNA, LOKI, MITHRAS, NUT, NANNA, RA, SHIVA, THOTH, THOR, VULCAN, ZEUS……this is but A FEW…..they all use these same dates, events, historical events, astronomical events, comets, …….all in the name of their gods/goddesses. This is my point. It does not come down to religion….religion was established to confuse. This was accomplished by the FALLEN ANGELS. DEMONS whisper in the human ear and causes chaos.

        April 16, 2013 at 4:01 PM

      • Demons have whispered into the ears of mohamed, and he shat out of his mouth instead of his arse and people worshiped him.

        April 16, 2013 at 7:10 PM

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  26. lo'liyah

    wow

    May 6, 2013 at 11:06 AM

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  28. Permana

    Good reseach please continue…

    No one can understand the GOD.
    As it said that good is (the greatest…self existence…the creator…the only…the omni-….bla…bla…bla)…then finally the GOD is unthinkable (from this on we should stop think about GOD since its beyond thinkable). Its beyond everybody (thinking) knowledge. Yes, everybody thinks they know GOD. The only thing everybody know about GOD is from tales (or history?). A few human in history know about GOD perhaps, as they tried to explain to other peoples (in holy books). And still the peoples think they understand their explanation.

    Nobody can insure the GOD wants you to do this or that. Its only beliefs.
    Simply, everything happen now in this existence is in the GOD willing. If not, how can things happen???? Without GOD willing, nothing can happen! Its my beliefs. I believe we should do only good things to others as others will do good to us.

    And everybody can say that their beliefs, religions or whatever is a freedom, pure without intimidations…well, its OK.

    …Lets talk about history.
    Please post some more amazing fact about world history.
    Regards.

    July 22, 2013 at 2:18 AM

  29. Sushil thakre

    That is hindu god lord shiv. Lots of people says it was shiv ling.as their was hindunism in macca before islam. Their are many videos on you tube you should watch.

    October 4, 2013 at 10:12 AM

  30. rawaran

    Hi V,

    from all the post of yours you are telling GOD as he, why it is HE why it cant be SHE. please dont tell that that you do not support religion. if you are not please do not mention GOD as HE.

    October 13, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    • To think GOD is a ‘she’ is to view HIM as the New Age Movements and pagans, druids and such. I do not hold those views therefore…I will address HIM as a HIM like the Bible tells me to. Period. I will not change my point of view just because someone does not like it. Religions are fixed by false doctrines, this is why it’s so controlling. It will not control me.

      October 14, 2013 at 9:38 AM

  31. rawaran

    v,

    I hope i have not asked my question clearly, in earlier post you said you do not belief in religions and you only belief in god.If it is so now you are saying that It is mentioned in bible(God as he (him)). So you are indirectly following chirstianity right? again my question is if there is no bible no quran how will you describe god?? please clarify my doubt???

    October 16, 2013 at 2:32 AM

  32. Hiten

    Plz can u read about the black stone in Hinduism that was performed by Lord shiva

    October 19, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    • Is this because you’re trying to convince me this is a correct state of mind? Or is their some other reasoning?

      October 19, 2013 at 10:02 PM

  33. noGod

    yeah, whatever,,,,bla bla bla
    is to hard to think that there is no god?

    November 1, 2013 at 6:18 AM

  34. universe

    Hi all,
    I want to say my opinion and truth. God who is created by human, and God not created human. This is all for safety purposes. For example a diamond or gold need the safety locker to be safe. Without safety locker, you can imagine what will be done. The same point which was used earlier as a name of God. God = safety locker, what is coming to mean here is religions and gods are created for align the humans in correct way. God is safety licker of your heart and thoughts. This will leads to you to good path, without religions you can’t imagine what is the results of humanity. Perhaps all humans will be an animal without the religion. So everyone understand the truth, God created by human was good cause and not for destruction. Present world are creating hate and killing each other in the name of religion. We don’t have research anything, all are human’s creations. Love is God, God is Love. This is truth. Just stop the research and help the ppl in poverty. Change the future, try to achieve seventh sense. Help poor, you can see the god in poor ppl’s smile. One day we are all dead who is posting in this site, no body knows who we are. Before we leave spread the love and care to other humans. In real fact We Are All One,in technical word We Are Same Product like a Audio cars with different colours. We all are came from same place and we are all go to same place . I meant research is not good here, this will lead good and bad. So we have to live our life for some purpose, we have to create history. I want to say a lot truth, but English is not my language. So I couldn’t explain deeply with English. Sorry for my English and speech. I was wrong, correct me.

    January 20, 2014 at 5:00 PM

    • the dark spread so many lies people begin to believe it. Our life is for a purpose….to SERVE GOD. Nothing more nothing less. And wasting time arguing with man lessens my powers to fight the supernatural which is obviously hard at work. The hive mentality is a false doctrine. Each special to GOD and this is proof that GOD loves us. If you don’t believe your special then maybe you need to reassess your relationship with GOD, not satan because this is his lies.

      January 21, 2014 at 7:41 AM

  35. sumit joshi

    there is only one god but he have many faces . he can be anywhere in anything he is in you he is also exist in me i mean in everything which exist in this world or not exist god is every where don’t mess with anyone just believe in god who ever it is he can be Allah he can be jesus and he can be lord shiva do you know the meaning of shiva the meaning of shiva is truth , just believe in god

    January 20, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    • Sad that people don’t work hard enough to find the TRUE GOD. Only satan has many disguises. When he comes into this world from another dimension, he uses many faces…this is the idol you speak of. GOD NEVER CHANGES. Neither does HIS love, find it…seek it out and find true happiness, not false doctrine.
      Fighting with man exhausts energy that is better utilized fighting the supernatural which is the wolf covering your eyes, seemingly disguised as sheep.

      January 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM

  36. kabugopatrick

    THE SCRIPTURE SAYS THE TIME WILL COM E WHEN THE WHOLE WORLD WILL KNOW THE TRUE CREATOR BY ONE NAME SO THIS IS THE TIME. HIS REAL NAME IS (YEHOWAH) NOT jehovah, yahweh ,yahhowah.that is HIS only name.HE is one and HIS name is one (zach14;9) so allah means lord christians and moselems worship one person .(A CREATURE BUT NOT A CREATOR) xtians w/ship sun (angel of darknee in disguise of light while moselems w/ship moon god angel of darkness.bse lucifer is so crafty and cunning he sent his son jesus (acts 13;6 and 10) (son of the lawless one 2 thessolonian 2;9..HE is our CREATOR BUT NOT GOD god means fortune aisaiah 65;11.and the word Amen means dastiny AISAIAH 65;11 lucifer just play us by changing words but we shd use so let it be.thats why moselims and xtians use amen in worship of ameni rah the egyptian god.but the son of the CREATOR IS YEHOWSHUAH MASHIACH. MEANING YEHOWAH (I AM WHO I AM) EXODUS 3;14 JOHN 8;24AND 27-28.YEHOWAH WILL SAVE (HE IS SEATED AT HIS SEAT OF MERCY) HIS SON IS THE WORD REVN 19;13.HIS WORD (SON)WILL SAVE OUR SOULS FROM INTENAL DETRUCTION (SHUAH) THAT WHY THE SON (WORD) WARNS US THAT JOHN 5;3 HE CAME IN HIS FATHERS NAME (YEHOWAH) BUT THE WORLD DID NOT RECIEVE HIM .IF ANOTHER (JESUS )COMES IN HIS OWN NAME HIM WE SHALL RECIEVE .AND REVN 13;8-9.THE WHOLE WORLD WILL WORSHP THE BEAST.MORE ABOUT THE SON ZACH 3;3,JER 33;16 HEB 7.MELICHIZEDECH.SO ACCEPT THE SON AND GET BAPTISED IN ONE TRUE NAME AS WE WAIT FOR OUR SALVATION OF OUR SOULS ON THE DAY OF OUR MASTER ,TEACHER ,RABBI ,THE RIGHTEOUS ONE.

    February 7, 2014 at 9:13 AM

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  39. THE BLACK STONEancient sacred stone building towards which Muslims pray.LOVE,STEPHANIE CURRY

    May 27, 2014 at 8:41 PM

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    June 5, 2014 at 6:03 PM

  41. MK

    It is amazing how the author claims to have obtained this information via “research”. The authentic information about any matter is one that comes directly from the originator of the subject. So for the information about the black stone, and about Islam itself, would be from the actual life of Prophet Muhammad(Peace be upon him).
    I sincerely advise the author to make a trip to a certified scholar of Islam for answers about Islam. Let me clarify some statements that even I, a common Muslim, find amazingly misleading.

    1. Quote:”At Mecca the Goddess was Shaybah or Sheba, the Old Woman, worshipped as a black aniconic stone like the Godess of the Scythian Amazons.” End quote.
    There is no evidence that a Goddess named as such was ever worshipped at makkah in the time of “Jahiliyyah”(ignorance, pre-islamic era). And the stone is not worshipped by Muslims. It is only revered, further explanation will follow in the next point.

    2. Quote:”No one seems to know exactly what it is supposed to represent today” End Quote.
    The origin of the stone has clearly been explained. It was brought down by the Angel Jibreel(Gabriel) upon the completion of the construction of Ka’ba” by Prophet Ibrahim(Abraham)(Peace be upon him).
    And the position of the stone in Islam is very clear from the words of the Caliph and companion of the prophet, Umar bin Al-Khattab(May Allah be pleased with him) as recorded in Sahih Al-Bukhari(a book recording the most authentic words and actions of the prophet Muhammad(Peace be upon him): Narrated by Zaid bin Aslam (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) from his father who said: “Umar bin Al-Khattab (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, ‘By Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) ! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) touching, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.’ Then he kissed it…’ (Bukhari book #26, Hadith #675).

    3. Quote: “Haram, “Sanctuary”, cognate of “harem,” which used to mean a Temple of Women.”End quote.
    “Haram” is an Arabic word, from root word of Ha-Ra-Ma, which means “Prohibited” or “Unallowed”. “Haram” is named as such to emphasize the many sacrifices that a person chooses to make to be in the place. For example, hunting, killing any animal or insect(eg. flies, mosqiotoes etc.) are “not allowed” when in state of “Ihram”. Also, sexual activities of any kind are prohibited in “Haram”.
    Generally, the word “Haram” now refers to the Holy Masjid(mosque) itself(both in Makkah and Madinah).

    You see, I have not yet completed the first few lines of the article. I can go on and on, but I believe that for an honest person, this much is enough to understand that the article in itself is full of error and misinformation.

    I sincerely urge the author and readers to approach an authentic scholar on the subject in question to get a true idea of the beliefs and the historical facts. If a person wants to learn about Medicine, he should go to a Scholar of Medicine, a doctor, and not to an an engineer or a historian. If he did indeed go to any other person, he would be putting himself and others into harm’s way.

    I hope these lines can be of benefit to the author and the readers.

    June 18, 2014 at 7:35 AM

  42. i was looking the foundation of maka but i didt get satisfy.its ok i will sear more.

    June 27, 2014 at 4:37 AM

  43. powranikam

    The ISIS want to destroy the Kaa’b and threaten to kill stone worshipers

    July 3, 2014 at 1:03 PM

  44. kavita

    Every evidence every perspective every comment is as related as the points u bring together. Fine… names n places are varying… bt d characters are same… the king n queens n god n goddess… here everyone is relating things to their own beliefs… its like u want to pick ur own god or d way want to connect with it… tht seems like everyone wants love, may b in face of mom, dad, siblings or lover… well thts wat i believe… bt im still with d same question… wat is that black stone… its everywhere… its in temple… in mecca… in egypt… or in every religion. As u mentioned before it was a meteroid . N obviously it was from sky so people anyhow linked it with heaven n hell, watsoever, bt how this stone or its pieces spread in d world wid same characters. I dont believe in religion or in god but i want to know wat d word god means i mean how someone came to know tht someone is watching us or it was just a story made by a lady who comeup wid d black stone

    September 1, 2014 at 11:40 AM

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