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The Bible VS. Joseph Smith

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This is a film by Joel P. Kramer & Nathan William Lundquist.
Within the capital of Israel we have Jerusalem, along with many Jews, Muslim and Christians, you also find a strong Moron presence. The movie revolves around Greg Gifford who is a generational Mormon, and a life long member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
The Book of Mormon is placed on its front cover along with, Doctrines and Covenants, Pearl of Great Price. Greg says that the whole of Christian could be likened to an elementary education, with Mormonism as the high school education. He also reveals that Mormons have more education than Christians.

In Joel’s apartment in Jerusalem, they sit to discuss the differences of the King James Bible as opposed to the Mormon Bible, first comparing the prophets of each to one another. Starting with the Book of Deuteronomy 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? This is a VERY important question to ask! This is the difference between a man speaking and GOD speaking.
In Deuteronomy 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. What is it that would cause a prophet to fail the test of a prophet? Well, whatever the prophet proclaims, it must come true. A brilliant and logical test.
A prophet is someone who claims GOD is speaking through him to the people. How can we know if the message is not coming from GOD? You must test the prophet. Since only GOD knows the future, a prophet can be tested in how he predicts the future. If even one of his predictions does not come true then you know he is not speaking for GOD but for himself.
The introduction page of the Book of Mormon reads, “The book was written by many ancient prophets by the spirit of prophecy and revelation.” Then we should be able to test this book and apply its scripture against Biblical prophecy.

THE BIBLE VS JOSEPH SMITH
The first prophet tested in the Book of Mormon will be Nephi, one of his prophecies is summarized by the Mormon Church in Nephi 13, which predicts the loss of many plain and precious parts of the Bible causing a need for the restoration of the Gospel, and the coming forth of the latter-day scripture. Mormonism says, Christianity is based on the Old and the New Testament alone, and there is a problem with the Bible and the Book of Mormon is the restoration of that corruption and you must read both and take into consideration this corruption. They even go so far as to say that the Book of Mormon comes first and then the King James Bible.
In the Book of Mormon, in the 2nd Book of Nephi 20:6 states; Thou fool, that shalt say: A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. Mormons believe that as a Christian, we are a fool for believing only in the Bible. At the bottom of this page the prophecy was said to have been given in the years between 600-592 B.C.  Nephi prophecy also reveals that after the twelve apostles of the Lamb, the formation of the ‘great and abominable’ church…for behold, they have ‘taken away from the gospel of the Lamb many parts which are ‘plain and most precious;’ So here we have Nephi tell us in and around 600 B.C. that after Jesus & the Apostles, the abominable church would corrupt the Bible.

Greg states that this is what their whole religion is based on! Nephi goes on to say that “because of these things which are taken away from the gospel of the Lamb, that Satan has great power over them, and that that great ‘pit’ hath been digged for them by that great and abominable church, which was founded by the devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to hell-” So the Mormons believe that those who follow the Christian Bible will be led to hell.
Dr. Christophe Rico, a linguist who tells us he would not find any scholar who takes seriously these statements. And the first demand he asks is a manuscript to produce these texts, which means they were made in modern times, and not even the church can produce these items. These ‘gold plates’ supposedly given to Joseph Smith and then these works were translated from them and then they were taken back to heaven. Dr. Rico states that anyone can bring revelations of these statements but without ancient texts, it’s just word of mouth, no proof.

Greg reveals to us the Mormons believe there was only one Bible manuscript and as it faded over time, then monks would recopy it, and this repetitive procedure would occur with process of ‘leaving out’ controversial parts. But, Dr. Rico reveals that this is nonsense, and that the church started spreading over the Mediterranean Sea area and so there were thousands of copies of this manuscript made. And over time if one monk was to copy the manuscript differently that this copy would stand out like a sore thumb, so it was impossible to have happened. This process is true both for the Old & New Testaments. Rico says there ate over 6,000 copies of manuscripts that goes back into antiquity, translated from Greek, or Hebrew. But the Book of Mormon have ZERO manuscripts to prove their status, yet it criticizes the Bible. Another point taken is that we are able to test our modern Bibles against the texts of the manuscripts of the Dead Sea Scrolls. So, the Book of Mormon’s prophet Nephi says the corruption would take place after the twelve apostles then we show proof that the Dead Sea Scrolls were in fact found to have been older than this corruption then this prophecy was untrue, and blatantly false.

Dead Sea Scroll expert, Randall Price on location from the position of the Qumran which is where the Dead Sea Scrolls are located. The Dead Sea Scrolls are then compared to the modern Bible to see if any precious parts are missing, and Price confirms from Cave #1, this reveals to us that the origins of these precious scrolls took place well before the birth of Jesus, in fact, they were also not found until 2,000 years later. So if gives us the opportunity to look at this evidence before any controversy took place, and it tells us the texts remain unchanged. Dr. Rico agrees stating that we are talking about a book that is the best and most, well known book from antiquities, and that the differences between what is known from other books from that time period is amazing. Rico reveals that when comparing the differences of any manuscript copies from antiquity, the only differences were minute and do not affect the substance of the texts. One example: the word being changed from ‘but’ to ‘however’. Rico says these remarks are utterly impossible. So, the logical conclusion is that this nullifies any prophecy from Nephi about these scripts as being corrupt! THIS PROPHET FAILS THE TEST!!

Let’s compare the prophets of the Old Testament; David, Isaiah, Micah, Daniel prophesizing the coming of a person known as the Messiah, of someone who would come and eventually rule the world. The writers of the New Testament believe that Jesus Christ was this New Messiah. Christ in the New Testament has the same meaning as the Old Testament, meaning Messiah.
The Biblical prophet tested will be Micah from Chapter 5:2, “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.” Amazingly a fragment from this prophecy was found among the Dead Sea Scrolls, and in cave #4 was found over 15,000 fragments that were uncovered. This fragment containing Micah 2, was dated back to 100 B. C. which dates it over a century old at the birth of Jesus on Bethlehem. In Matthew’s Gospel Chapter 2, he states that Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judah, and then he quotes Micah 5:2 to show that Jesus fulfils this prophecy. So this link between the prophecy from Micah to Matthew fulfils these statements and prophecies.

In the Church of Nativity in Bethlehem, it’s built over the traditional place of Jesus’ birth, is the place where pilgrims have been visiting for over 2,000 years. Joel meets Dr. Gabriel Barkay, an archeologist who had been working in Israel for over 40 years. He claims to be very open minded and is firstly an archeologist and is not a Christian. He begins by saying under the Church of Nativity there are caves, and those cavities were in use in the first century and the Christian faith regards this place as very authentic.
Micah is not the only prophet who would predict where the Messiah would be born; the prophet Alma, from the Book of Mormon, prophesized ‘And behold, he is born of Mary, at Jerusalem.’ You can turn to Alma, Chapter 7:10 and it states in the Book of Mormon that Jesus was born in Jerusalem. And the Bible says Bethlehem. Mormon scholars along with Daniel Peterson, argue that because Bethlehem is so close to Jerusalem that this is merely a general statement inferring the same place. Bethlehem is considered a suburb of Jerusalem. Kerry Shirts, another Mormon Scholar states, “how far is Bethlehem from Jerusalem, six miles? Of course it’s going to be in the land of Jerusalem.”

But historical geographers were interviewed without the knowledge of the subject at hand and they exclaimed that this is indeed not the same place. And the interviewer was corrected saying with the historical geographer Todd Bolen saying, “It is not the land of Jerusalem and Bethlehem is a city six miles south of Jerusalem.” When asked if it could be considered the same place, or called the same thing, he revealed, “No, there are cities in between Bethlehem and Jerusalem.” When asked was Jesus born in Jerusalem, he replies no, he was born in Bethlehem.
So Greg replies, to this finding that he would like to say that Alma was a human and found to have been mistaken but in this context you cannot make mistakes. And that he obviously made a mistake. No other conclusion can be made. So is GOD trying to confuse us? No, this is simple enough! Nothing complex about it and the truth is for our protection. ALMA FAILS THE TEST OF PROPHET.
Isaiah will be the next prophet tested. Around 700 B.C., Isaiah made several prophecies about the coming of the Messiah, and the ancestry in which Jesus would come would be from the descendants of King David. Isaiah 16:5, “And in mercy shall the throne be established: and he shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness.” The oldest copy of this prophecy dates back to 125 B.C. and it was preserved in the Great Isaiah Scroll in Cave #1. Joel got to see the scroll on display in person. When asked of Greg if there was anything like this is Mormonism that equals this magnitude, and he answers no, not that he knows of. Isaiah says that the Messiah will come from the house of David, so David was real asks Joel to Dr. Barkay which he replies that not only was his presence known of in Biblical manuscripts but also extra-Biblical texts, one being Tel Dan, two inscriptions were found in 9 B.C. that specifically mentions the House of David. So, we have Isaiah stating in the Old Testament that Jesus would be from the House of David which went from prophecy to truth. Also Matthew reveals this truth several times, as well.

Then we have other ancient texts showing us the same; Eusebius of Caesarea, speaks Jude being brought before the him and they confused this to be true. They family of Jesus admits they were the heirs of King David. So, on the plate above Jesus when being crucified said Jesus from Nazareth King of the Jews, it held a very serious meaning. He was the son of David. So, there is both Biblical and extra-Biblical testaments showing this to be true. In effect this reveals that ISAAIH WAS TESTED A TRUE PROPHET!
King David’s prophecies about the coming Messiah are in the Book of Psalms, in chapter 22:16; “For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.” This was stated in 1000 B.C. and a fragment stating this prophecy from 100 B.C. was found among the Dead Sea Scrolls. The only practices of this sort was performed by Roman crucifixions, by crucifying their prisoners, hands and feet to the crosses. Physical evidence was found by archeologists of a bone box in Oshry with the bones still affixed to the nail which proved the existence of crucifixions.
There is also evidence outside of Biblical texts from Josephus Flavius, A.D. 37-100, wrote as a eye witness, “Roman soldiers who amused themselves by nailing their prisoners in different practices: And so great was their number that space could not be found for the crosses, not crosses for the bodies.” Incredibly he also wrote of Jesus saying, “Now there was about this time, Jesus…Pilate had condemned him to the cross…” To this very date and again upon this year’s, Good Friday, will thousands gather in the streets of Jerusalem to carry a cross in a commemorate the crucifixion of Jesus, and event that took place almost 2000 years ago.

Even the eye witnesses to Jesus’ crucifixion wrote of the nail marks on Jesus’ hands. Also in Acts we have the Scripture stating originally in Greek that He was put to death by nailing Him to a cross. So this fulfills the prophecy from Psalms 22.  David’s prophecy that the Messiah would die by having his hands and feet pierced is preserved in the Dead Sea Scrolls that is a 100 years older than when Jesus dies, taking place in 33 A.D.
Next Greg and Joel test the Biblical prophet, Daniel. The Old testament prophets not only give us detailed information about how the Messiah would die but even predicts when. In Daniel 9:25-26, “Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.” Cut off is an Old Testament term meaning killed, the city is Jerusalem and the sanctuary is the Temple. In 538 B.C. Daniel predicted a significant sequence of events which would happen; first being that the Messiah would be killed in the Temple in Jerusalem and we know that from the time when Jesus died until now, the only Temple to be destroyed was in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. So, in order for this prophecy to be fulfilled, the Messiah would have to be killed before the time of 70 A.D., and this was precisely when Jesus was crucified. Archeologist Barkay tell of the events concerning the soldier of Titus, that they purposely destroyed Jerusalem and the focal point bring the Temple Mount. When asked if the writing of Daniel predate these events and he replied, “That’s for sure”. So just as Daniel predicted Jesus was killed just before the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem. And after the crucifixion Jesus was laid in a tomb. The tomb is over 2,000 years old, and todat it’s protected under the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Dr. Shiman Gibson, a secular archeologist excavated in the Church, and denoted that this is absolutely the place of Jesus’ burial.

Another prophecy of King David, was of Psalms 16:10-11 “For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.” The disciples believed that the Messiah was the fulfillment of David’s prophecy because from the grave, Jesus had risen from the dead. On the third day, some women found the cave in which Jesus was placed after his death to be empty.  Dr. William Lane Craig states that there are numerous Scripture found to document this. The eye witnesses proclaimed that Jesus has risen and was found to be the Messiah spoken of by the great prophets in the Old Testaments. There were spoken of by these witnesses and for this they would claim to even die for. There is not doubt that the Apostle saw Jesus death as a direct fulfillment of David’s prophecy. Acts 2:27-28 “Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.”
The Apostle Peter quotes David’s prophecy and teaches that David died and his tomb is here to this day. Acts 2:29-32:“Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.” The contrast was very clear, that David’s tomb was there and verifiable and the Messiah’s was empty and His body was not to be found, and that GOD had raised Him up. So, in the sermons of the Acts of the Apostles, we have independent evidence for the empty tomb of Jesus in these sermons.

But the literary evidence even goes beyond that time period of the first century when Josephus Flavius proclaimed “…These that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again on the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold…” So, we have multiple independent witnesses and from these events we can reconstruct the days of our beloved Jesus Christ.
When the Scriptures and hypothesis are weighed together, one can be convinced that evidence proves there is no doubt of this truth and historical events. Even today pilgrims return to the site of Jesus’ grave, just as thy have been doing for almost 2,000 years. Once a year, pilgrims from around the world  pack themselves into the Church of the Holy Sepulchre where a fire is then lit and is spread from candle to candle through the Church, then throughout Jerusalem and then to the ends of the earth! And what an amazing site to behold! According to the New Testament Jesus’ resurrection clearly fulfilled David’s prophecy. DAVID TESTED AND PASSED AS A TRUE PROPHET!

In this world of over 6 billion people, we are able to send a letter to just one person, how much information do you have to put onto that letter to do that? Not much, a surprisingly small amount. This small amount of information given can pin-point a person wherever they may be in the world, and in the same way, small details given by the these prophets such a David, Daniel, Isaiah, and Micah can identify one person out all the people ever born. Who else in the scope of history was born in Bethlehem, from the House of David, pierced in the hands and feet, killed before the Temple was destroyed and whose tomb was found empty! This is GOD speaking to us!
After applying the prophecies from these prophets, it becomes clear who speaks the truth and plainly who dies not. The Biblical prophets were surrounded by an abundance of historical evidence while the Mormon have NO evidence at all. In fact there is NO evidence at all until the Book of Mormon was published in 1930. These Book of Mormon prophets prophesized of Joseph Smith, and that the Book of Mormon shall come forth saying; it shall come to pass that the Lord God shall bring forth unto you the words of a book,… the book shall be delivered a man, and he shall deliver the words of the book…” Since there are no ancient texts confirming the prophecies brought by this book, we must then affirm that these texts were published by Joseph Smith and his own imaginations. Anyone has these capabilities. On the front of some of the published texts it even quotes, “New Testament of the Bible by Joseph Smith of the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints.” Joseph Smith’s translations is even called the “Inspired Version,” which contains two columns, the one of the left being his translation and the right of the King James Version. Throughout the texts of his book, there are multiple pages of additional texts that exceed the actual King James version. With these impressions are given the express statements that these are the “lost and precious texts” of the Bible. This is supposedly it being restored but seriously he is the one who is corrupting the Bible with his addition of his own words. Were not talking about a few letters or words, were talking major differences here, an example here would be in Isaiah 29…with his adding of his name and the coming of the Book of Mormon. By doing this he is including himself as the man who would bring forth this book! When comparing the Book of Mormon and the Great Isaiah Scroll, we see major archeologist and scholars revealing there is no basis of evidence which corroborates this. In fact these pages in the Book of Mormon is ADD-ONS. So this is not a translation, but a re-writing!

Even with the basic Scripture of John 1, Chapter 1 verse 1; we have; “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” and then the Book of Mormon; “In the beginning was the gospel preached through the Son. And the gospel was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was of God.” With the splitting of this text, the Mormon text striped Jesus of His Deity.
The most ancient copy we have of this text in the Papyrus 66 was from around 150 A.D. and it we are very sure of this copy. Since John was a witness of Jesus and His life, then it is more trustworthy of the texts. Joseph rewrote his translation roughly 1800 years later. Truth is and has been corrupted by not by the King James, but by Joseph Smith.
Joseph even changes Roman 4:16, “Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,” but Smith’s version reads; “Ye are justified of faith and works, through grace,” Joseph adds works, of Paul’s Gospel of which he warns, that no man or angel from heaven should preach the gospel that we preach to you, let him be eternally condemned! Greg even admits that by adding this ‘works’ that this gospel which includes ‘works’ represents the gospel of the Mormons.
THIS ONE IS THE KICKER! Another revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, says, “ENABLE MEN TO BECOME GODS” ….this is the NEW AGE Movement!

Interestingly enough when Paul preached that anyone who changes the Gospel it to be eternally condemned! So what we have from this extensive research is that the BOOK OF MORMON is heresy! It’s APOSTACY! And it’s downright NEW AGE!
Greg reveals that he has been taught that GOD was like us at one time and through ‘WORKS” we too can become gods! So this reveals Apostle Paul’s revelation that by grace, God became man to save man from their sins, but in contrast  Joseph Smith preached that by their ‘works’ man can become gods!!!
Joseph Smith also became prophetic when telling of futuristic events so even he can be tested! We have the “Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet in 1832, which says a Temple will be built in Missouri. He predicted that the “Temple shall be reared in this generation, for verily this generation shall not pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord,” Just over a year later, the Mormon’s were forced to leave the area and eventually the entire state of Missouri where the Temple was prophesized to be built.
Thirty-eight years later after the prophecy by Joseph Smith was given, as his generation was coming to a close, the Mormon Apostle, Orson Pratt on May 5th, 1870 said, “The Latter-Day Saints just as much expect to receive a fulfillment of that promise during the generation that was in existence in 1832 as they expect the sun will rise and set tomorrow. Why? Because God cannot lie. He will fulfill all his promises.”
The Temple Lot in Independence Missouri today, sits empty! There was never a Temple! With all the resources of this organization, don’t you think they would put a Temple there, just to fulfill that prophecy!

Jesus also prophesized about the Temple that stood in Jerusalem in His day. Mark 13:1 “And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here! And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” Jesus is predicting the building, and they would be so demolished that not one stone would remain on another. That all the stones from the Temple Mount would be thrown off and not one remain. There is definitely archeological evidence which shows the fulfillment of this prophecy, even unto this very day! You can travel to Jerusalem today and see this for yourself. What Jesus was referring to was that the platform in which the Temple building was located, when the event occurred it would throw all these stones from atop this site downward. And this is exactly what has occurred. It even stuck the road beneath so hard that there are depressions from these gigantic rocks, and enormous stones, landed. As tradition, on the eve and the morning of that day gone by, the people read from Laminations. You even see people sitting and crying, because of this event which took place almost 2,000 years ago but they still feel it unto this very day!
Jesus’ prophecy of this event which took place in our history is an historical fact. Joseph Smith’s prediction of the Mormon Temple did not come to pass and was indeed a false prediction/prophecy. JOSEPH SMITH’S FAILS THE TEST OF A PROPHET.
Deuteronomy 18:20 “But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.”

From a spiritual context this means that there is to be a separation of you to this person!

ONLY BY THE GRACE OF GOD does this come to you!

9 responses

  1. Glory! Glory to The Lamb of God..Hallelujah! Hallelujah! to the Lion of Judah. The risen Jesus of nazareth is the promised Messiah, with Him comes peace and joy unto The Lord God – giver of life. Amen & Amen.

    June 20, 2012 at 7:34 AM

  2. jesus smith

    i really like it . supporting your ideas with those images very manipulative. i do not believe in religions but if i could i would follow you

    September 8, 2012 at 7:04 AM

  3. Eric Mixi

    I like the film, but it’s obvious that the “life long Mormon” isn’t a Mormon from the very beginning of the movie, and is just pretending to be one. The purpose of the deception of the view is to move the movie along the plot which is explaining to a Mormon and have him gradually realize the mistakes of Mormonism. All of his “Hmm, let’s see, the is difficult. Let me think. (pause) I guess you’re right. I guess Joseph Smith is a false prophet.” are so obviously an act. They should say it’s fiction and the man is acting to dramatize a conversion to Christianity. To put it out as real and deceive the viewer is Satanic. I pray that they will repent. If a viewer saw this obvious and intentional deception, she or he would think the Christian message is a deception too. They are lying and casting shame and lies on the cross of Jesus. How could they lie. I’m so ashamed. They will rot in hell. The wrap the Christian message in an obvious cheap lie. The father of lies is Satan.

    September 16, 2012 at 9:41 PM

  4. Anna M Cortinas

    First of all, I don’t know anything about a “film”, I just read this article, and it was good, very good and most important it was “truth”. As for this film revealing “lies and deception” by Christianity, that’s not truth. First of all, “film” is hollywood… it’s all acting. But deep beneath the faces and the voices underlining every film is a point of view or message or something, call it what you will, that the director, along with the actors wish to convey to the viewer. The possibility that a character in the program does not “convince” the viewer of the reality of the message, does not mean the message is false or deceiving. So, a movie is perhaps maybe 2-3 hours long at most… I hardly believe that a real life conversion from one religion to the other can be totally caught on video. I’m having a hard time understanding whose side you’re on… the Truth or the Deception? The father of lies is Satan and the Bible also says there is no Truth in him, so as you can see, Satan, has nothing to do with this article or the movie, and that’s a good thing…

    September 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    • This whole article was put together to have people TEST the doctrines. This is what we are to do. DISCERNMENT is key to building a strong foundation in the right doctrine. THE WORD of GOD is that foundation, and too many Bibles out there are being changed, howbeit …however small and minute the changes, it’s enough to change GOD’S WORD!

      I try to relay this message that this doctrine presented by Joseph Smith is not only New Age but it is of evil, given to man by fallen angels, this is the entity which presented it to Joseph Smith. So, in my opinion, Satan has everything to do with Mormonism. His angels brought forth false doctrines, and man runs with it.

      In an article I am releasing next week, it reveals so much more about Mormonism and the truths behind it. It is truly amazing the content which people will believe as the true gospel. I don’t trust any Bible but the KJV.

      This program from which the article was presented was a view which I very much stand by. I continue to have this same judgment about it and the religion of Mormonism. I actually don’t believe in ‘religion’ per say…I believe in a relationship with GOD and His Son, our dear Lord, Jesus Christ. This is the King whom I serve! Peace & Blessings-V

      September 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM

  5. Though you have a point in several questions and statements you made, there is something you should understand about christians/mormons – mormons are christians. For your better understanding christians are all that follow and believe in Jesus Christ, so every church that embrace Jesus Christ are Christians :) all of them :) and mormons do not exclude the bible, you are very wrong! they guide themselves through it teachings and prayers, etc… and they complement their knowledge with the book of mormon!
    ( I am not mormon, neither catholic, or whatever … i am just a investigator of many religions in the world … and stil there is none I could said : the truth clean and shinning :) although churches and religion has a very good effect in society and on people ! I believe in Jesus Christ, Buddah, Ala, Mouhamed, Jeovah, Báhái, – they were all historical humans with greatness spirituality – and historical facts prove their existence on earth—- about the churches and institutions taking advantage of the people faith, and low knowledge, pour souls….. This important figures Jesus, Buda, Mouhamed, Ala, they were all very important in their time, in there place and geographic zone, and brought a huge message to humanity ! this is the most important thing then claim I have the truth, you are all wrong, you are not trully,,,,blah blah blah! I could say, ALL CHurches are fake,,,,but i dont, because those important figures dont have guilty because the men take control of their word and make money machines and mind control.,… we should be free :) loving:) armless:) and friends) and brothers and sister ando not fear GOD :) He is LOVE and PEACE…. see ya

    October 1, 2012 at 9:08 PM

    • I do not believe you are correct. Here is the reason’s I think this is a FALSE RELIGION….and BTW…I don’t profess to any religion…only a relationship with GOD.
      “KOLOB”—GOD’s Home?

      The cosmology of this churches teaches is that GOD lives in a giant crystal ball, and HIS home resides on a planet which orbit’s a star named “Kolob”. This is supposedly a governing star of our universe. (“Church History and Modern Revelation” Volume 3, Page 60).

      Actually in this theory, the sun borrows its light from Kolob and revolves near the planets Oliblish, through the ‘medium’ of Kae-e-vanrash, which governs 15 other fixed planets and stars, and receives light from the revolutions of Kolob. (Book of Abraham, Facsimile Number 2)

      The Holy of Holies in the Salt Lake Temple actually contains a portal to the celestial realm at Kolob.

      Kolob is the north Star.

      A day for God is like a thousand years on Earth. This is because it takes a thousand Earth years for God’s home planet Kolob to rotate around once on its axis. (Abraham 3:4-5)

      The ‘light of Christ’ is the light coming from the Sun and the Moon. (D&C 88:7)

      UFO’s are from the City of Enoch, that was raised to heaven because the citizens obtained perfection. Evidently, the City of Enoch is one in the same as The Land of Nod.

      UFO’s are from the lost ten tribes, which live under the north pole. These tribes will return by flight from the north in the Last Days. (D&C 110:11 and 133:26) By the way, this section of the texts imply that this section is for the conferral of priesthood keys, and the coming of Elijah. There are three orders of priesthood; (1) the Aaronic Priesthood, (2) the Melchizedek Priesthood; and (3) the Patriarchal Priesthood.

      Mormonism teaches that Cain was so evil, God cursed him and his lineage with black skin, creating the African race. Then, there are people of other religions who believe that the black races originates with the fallen angels.

      All races, including blacks, Asians, Indians, etc…will be resurrected in their perfect state as white Caucasians.
      Throughout the Church’s embattled history, Mormons have found solace in the future Judgment Day promised by Smith’s angel. Smith’s writings clearly indicated that the Judgment Day was to arrive during his own generation. Perhaps the predicted Great Conflagration did arrive: the American Civil War broke out in 1861. Many of Smith’s personal followers were still alive to witness that brutal conflict which must have seemed like an Armageddon to many Americans.*
      * Interestingly, the Southern secessionist and pro-slavery movements which had caused the Confederacy to split from the Union, and thereby set the stage for the Civil War, were greatly influenced by the Brotherhood network. We see this, for instance, in two of the many proposed flag designs for the new Confederacy: the designs prominently feature the Brotherhood’s “All-Seeing Eye” of God. Before the outbreak of the War, a group of Southerners had created an influential pro-slavery secret society called the Knights of the Golden Circle.
      Those fraternal Knights were committed to the preservation of slavery in the lands bordering the Caribbean Sea—the so-called “Golden Circle.” The seal of the Knights featured a cross similar to the Maltese cross used by the old Knights of Malta. The Knights of the Golden Circle eventually vanished and were replaced by the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. The Klan was a crude Brotherhood-style secret society which arose in the turbulence of the postwar South. Reportedly founded as a joke, the Klan quickly grew and became a powerful social and political force in the South. Klan teachings are deeply racist and rooted in Aryanism.
      Joseph Smith described it as a beautiful clear day in the spring of 1820. Master Joseph was 14 or 15 years of age and his mind was in a state of confusion. In his hometown of Manchester, New York, intense quarreling had broken out between various Christian sects, all of which were vying for members. To sort out the controversies in his mind, Joseph climbed a lonely hill near his home, prayed aloud, and hoped that God would answer him. What happened next was probably more than he had bargained for:
      .. . immediately I was seized upon by some power which entirely overcame me, and had such an astonishing influence over me as to bind my tongue so that I could not speak. Thick darkness gathered around me, and it seemed to me for a time as if I were doomed to sudden destruction.
      JOSEPH SMITH *The words of Joseph Smith are quoted from the book, Pearl of Great Price
      Joseph’s testimony that he felt seized and unable to move is identical to several modern UFO close encounters in which eyewitnesses report being immobilized, especially before an abduction.
      In 1820 and at Palmyra, New York 14-year-old Joseph Smith said he saw a bright object in the clear sky that grew in magnitude, lit tree branches in brilliant color and landed on the ground. Two brilliant Personages appeared standing in the air who made clear they were the Father and Son and Joseph had been chosen to bring forth new and divine knowledge.
      Between 1823 and 1827, a visiting angel named Moroni told Joseph about a book of ancient engraved gold plates buried in a stone box on a hill near Palmyra. On September 21-22, 1827, Joseph and his wife Emma recovered the book of gold plates, translated the engraved characters, and published this as THE BOOK OF MORMON in 1830 Palmyra. The translated plates were returned to Moroni and are to be revealed anew sometime in the future.
      Joseph Smith and Kabbalah-The Occult Connection
      http://www.gnosis.org/jskabb1.htm
      This link gives an in depth research of what this whole Mormon doctrine is based from. The study reveals the connections between the occult and the Kabbalah. There are definite connections between he and the Freemasons considering he was a high level mason. This can give the reader the reinforced implications of these connections and how the seeds are from the Freemasons.
      The Hermetic, Alchemical and Rosicrucian mysticism and traditions influence this false prophet’s interpretations and visions. The occultic aspiration of the Jewish Kabbalah singularly hold substantial evidence but formed with the Mormon methodology brings into fruition a solid foundation for the nurturing of many lies and practices.
      Ritualistic ceremonial magic of Joseph Smith was introduced into the church and is still practiced within their secret temples. The Kabbalah theosophy is reminiscent of Albert Pike, Helena Blavatsky, and many others of the Theosophical Society.
      Angel Moroni
      Joseph said that the ancient prophet Mormon kept the engraved gold plates records passed along from ancient Jerusalem around 600 BC to AD 420 in Mesoamerica with angel Moroni burying the book of plates on hill around AD 420. Hence, Joseph meant that God was the author of the gold plates that Joseph Smith translated into English from reformed Egyptian and then published as THE BOOK OF MORMON in 1830 in Palmyra, New York. The plates were returned to the angel Moroni and are to be revealed anew in the future in the due time of the Lord so as to show people that they did exist and were translated by Joseph Smith.
      The visitor said his name was Moroni and told Joseph Smith he had been divinely chosen for important work.
      “He said there as a book deposited, written upon gold plates, giving an account of the former inhabitants of this continent, and the source from whence they sprang. He also said that the fullness of the everlasting Gospel was contained in it, as delivered by the Savior to the ancient inhabitants.”
      As Moroni spoke, Joseph Smith received a vision showing him where the plates were buried in a stone box on a hill nearby. There, Moroni said, he would also find a breastplate to which were fastened two stones called the Urim and Thummin known in ancient times as “seers.” It would be the young man’s duty to take the plates into safekeeping and, with the help of the two stones, translate what was written on them.
      Although Joseph Smith was able to go directly to the stone box the next day, four years passed before Moroni who made continuing appearances, allowed him to remove the contents and start translation. Moroni’s part in all this became clearer when it was learned he was the resurrected son of Mormon, the ancient historian whose writings comprised much of the book to be translated.
      When the work was finished, the plates were delivered up to Moroni.
      THE ENTITY THAT THE THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY calls Jesus Christ…is a fallen angel called Master Jesus of the Ascended Masters who admit they are fallen angels. This is the same entities I believe contacted Smith. Why? Because the Freemason handwork is all over this religion and they believe in these same figures as their gods.

      October 1, 2012 at 10:09 PM

  6. Mary

    If you look at the history of crucifiction, you will find that psalm 22, written around a thousand years before the birth of Christ, predates the event. In fact, psalm 22 predates the Roman Empire, who invented or perfected “modern” crucifiction by hundreds of years. The villiage of Rome was founded around 625 BC. Now THAT is prophecy proof!

    Please pardon my typos as my tablet is being difficult…lagging and wont back up to allw corrections… sigh.. village

    October 31, 2013 at 8:40 AM

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